Tee, I am on that other board too, not much lately. I am screen name photobug over there. :)). Gee, its been months since I visited there. They aren't as fun as this one is at times.

and .....(slowly stepping out of the closet....) the rogue that tee referred to who went 63 days on injections is me....I did it thru a clinic, didn't have any immunity issues, and stabilized fine after the round.

I agree with grammy that newbies really need to be careful in reading this thread, I am of the opinion that following the protocol exactly is the best way to do it. Especially the very first round. Having said that, I have no problem with people shaking it up a little as long as they know the risk and let other know that it is off protocol so that no one is confused by that. That is why this rogue thread is good because it lets people know, this is not on protocol. I followed protocol exactly my first two rounds. I have done some small motifications this round but only because I know what to expect and what works for me and if something doesn't work I change it back quickly. I am also not making big changes either, very minor protien changes and I did add in coconut oil every few days for my gallbladder, though I now have an herbal remidy I'm going to try. But if you do go rogue and you aren't losing like you should then I would suggest you go back on protocol. I also don't think it's a good idea to go rogue in P3. In P2 going rogue mostly affects how much weight you lose, in P3 it can affect your stabilizing, which, lets face it is why we are doing hcg in the first place. I do hope everyone feels comfortable sharing what they are doing and doesn't feel like anybody is judging you. We are all here to support and get ideas from each other. I love this forum, it has made my hcg journey much better. :-)

Barb~ I wasn't going to out you! You know I would never do that!!!

The thing that people talk about on the other site is making sure you do your first round by the book. Yes, making changes or adding things is a "at your own risk" deal. You have to know the consequence and be mentally prepared for it to happen. When it does you have to suck it u, take it as a learning exp, and keep it moving. And yes, this thread is diff not for newbies!!!

That's fine Colleen, the point is for people to have a place not to feel "spanked" if they do go rogue, which has been an issue for us. So if you want to stay on this thread, please keep that in mind. I also think there is a lot of valuable info to be gleaned. If coconut oil were more popular in Dr. S's day i'm sure he would have experimented with it, given what we know about it today. Also the protocol is NOT working as it should for some. It didn't for me last round, although my bad beginning (and hhcg is totally rogue yet that is acceptable on this forum?) may be totally why.

Fruit still does not work for me. I can guarantee blood sugar issues are much worse today than they were in Dr. S's time. The "food" i grew up eating and that left me permanently damaged did not exist 60 years ago. Although i'm better with that this round, eating an apple still makes me totally wonky so i won't do it. I'm gluten-intolerant so i won't eat toast or breadsticks. Isn't that going rogue? Also, the excerpt Margie posted toward the beginning was a great intro into the diet and how to interpret it.

I think the warning to newbies is a good one. I will edit the OP to include that. We rebels just need a place to congregate in peace.

And rocky, i find i always agree with everything you say, lol.

Petrolatum: I read in wikipedia that petrolatum is an oil-based product but it is not absorbed through the skin.