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    • hCGDietAuthorsusiered
    • TimeNov 22nd 2009
     # 201permalink
    Barb I have been thinking that too but it seems I keep going up just a little and what if that keeps going? I lost 15 not counting load days and was about 5 lbs from goal and lost 2 more on last 3 VLCD so I was actually 3 lbs. from goal but I know I cant have those last 2 lbs. but I DO NOT want to gain because Im so close to goal I'm not doing any more rounds so I'm trying really hard to keep it off but I dont want to be this starch intolerant forever so I will try and see if I can stay at 2 lbs. over LIW but thats a little dissappointing but I can except that if it has to be!
    Susie
    • hCGDietAuthorILuvKats
    • TimeNov 22nd 2009
     # 202permalink
    Susie, speaking from experience, when you are as close to your goal as we are.....it is not as easy as it is for those who are like 15 lbs or so from goal. i think there is a bit of a see saw motion back and forth. If you really want those last 7 pounds, you may need to just do another round. That is exactly the position I am in. It has taken me this long to decide to do it (since Aug 1), but I know I want to do it now. Give your body time. As everyone says, the last pounds are the hardest.....just as they are on every other diet. It's easy to get your BMI down to 24 or 25 on this protocol....its alot harder to get it below that. You are going to stabilize at what your body decides is appropriate for now...not what you decide is appropriate. It's not fair, i know, but it is the way it is...:)). A short round is 23 days of injections...a bunch of us are going to do it in January together...want to join in??

    Barb
    • hCGDietAuthorsusiered
    • TimeNov 22nd 2009
     # 203permalink
    Wow you know I will think about it but I really don't think I wanna do another round but I'll definetely think about it...I can handle p3 really well but p2 and p4 scare me, I did a 43 day and it was soooo hard for me and the thought of trying to add the starches and sugar back in again (IF I ever get it this time) is really intimidating. I may try to get a few off by eating high protein and exercise. You have 7 more to lose Barb?
    Susie
    • hCGDietAuthorILuvKats
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009
     # 204permalink
    Yes, about 7, give or take. I am going to do a 4 week round in January, and as Nike says "just do it". I am pretty good now, but just want to get those last pesky few pounds off. Then I want to really start exercising alot again...which will put some muscle weight back on me, I know. Exercise has not historically helped me to lose weight, so I want to lose the weight with HCG, then work harder on muscles again. I am going to get one of those muscle measure thingys, but I think my mass is pretty good now. I have good definition in my arms and legs.
    • hCGDietAuthorlis
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009
     # 205permalink
    Am I right that .......forever ......steak days if we are 2.1 lbs over ldw? I heard that rumor but couldn't find it specifically mentioned easily on the p4 threads.
  1.  # 206permalink
    Yes it's forever. A neat trick to jerk the body into submission. LOL
    Colleen
    • hCGDietAuthorsusiered
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009
     # 207permalink
    well thats awesome Barb but I dont think I can do that soon again, I am also gonna start exercise again hopefully after the new year or after we move sometime in feb or march...got alot going on at the house project and I'll be doing alot of painting and cleaning up so no time for exercise!!! But if after about 6 months I'm still struggling then I will seriously think about again just so I can get the last 5 off plus a few extra for wiggle room when I start adding starches again. Exercise makes you feel better about yourself even if it doesnt help lose weight...thats how I feel anyway. I have a few problem areas left that I don't think anything can change except a plastic surgeon !!! might go for that someday if my husband lets me.

    Colleen that word "submission" has not been a favorite word of mine, why do we women always hear that word!!! LOL well if its making my body submit then I''m ok with it ;) I thought I was gonna do a steak day today but I'm 1lb over so I figured I'm ok today...I've not done a steak day once just high protein so I'm thankful for that ;)
    Susie
    • hCGDietAuthorkatmomma
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009
     # 208permalink
    I've found that the hardest thing BY FAR is P4. I had a little freakout in P3 the first week when I was see-sawing. But in the end, I ended up being able to maintain 4 lbs below LIW. However, now that I'm in P4 it's not working quite that way. I've added another pound, and am to the point where I've been fairly stable for the last 3-4 days with one starch per day and higher sugar fruits - my carb and protein grams are about even right now usually with a few more carb grams than protein. I'm having to come to terms with the fact that where I stabilized in P3 is not necessarily going to work for me in P4, and frankly, for the rest of my life. I don't really like it - but it's better than being where I was when I started the protocol. I'm also back to my regular workouts - even upping the weights now - and seeing results. The arms are more defined, the legs are firmer, and oh, the abs are starting to peek out!

    I'm wondering if some of us (myself included) get so hung up on the number that we see pop up on the scale every morning that we quit looking at the big picture. We are healthier and more fit than when we started the protocol, and some of us are really close to the goal weight we set for ourselves. If our bodies want to stay at a certain weight to operate at an optimal level, are we doing ourselves a big disservice by obsessing over 5 lbs? Don't get me wrong here - I am a master obsessor! I see a gain and BOY do I get CRANKY! LOL. It's great that we have tools like steak days to keep things from getting out of hand, but I'm wondering if sometimes we pick a number and get wrapped around the axle trying to get and stay there, when in all reality, 5 pounds or so higher is a much more realistic number to maintain. Just thinking out loud over here....
    Thankful People: susiered
    • hCGDietAuthorSMinSoCal
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009 edited
     # 209permalink
    Keep in mind that working out will add muscle, and muscle weighs more than fat. You might gain weight, but still be at (or below) your old body fat. I think you're right that you can't get all hung up on that number if you're going to change the rules of the game. ;-)
    • hCGDietAuthorsusiered
    • TimeNov 23rd 2009
     # 210permalink
    Your so right Katomma p4 is the hardest...but its a head game and numbers seem so important!! I got down to 133, my LIW was 135. something and I so bad want to be at the lower end of 130 not the upper but if I could just convince myself its only a couple of pounds and it doesn't matter but thats easier said then done. I guess I'm afraid the scale will keep climbing and I will have done this all for nothing...so paranoid about that and like you said when the scale goes up a few very suddenly I just have a terrible day. you are right its an obsession but we need to weigh often to keep that weight in check, I know from experience because I lost 25 on my own then another 25 at WW 10 yrs ago and when I stopped weighing everyday was when trouble started cause I knew I gained but was afraid to get on the scale so finally when I started hcg had to weigh and had gained the 25 back!!! I was upset but knew I would have to face it sooner or later and glad I did now and got 15 off but I'm ok at this weight if I could just keep it here and eat a few starches a day, I'm in week 5 of p4 and can only eat one starch a day or I gain and I was hoping to be able to have more but I'll learn it will just take time I know as Barb says PATIENCE...so hoping to get my body figured out without gaining more than 2-3lbs. and stabilize at that.
    Susie