Looking for advise... I am on R1P2VLCD27 and plan to go 40 days taking RX sublingual. My question is; I committed to a 12K race the first week-end in May before starting this program. I will be in P3 mid-February and really need to start training for the race but concerned about stabalizing during training. At the present I am walking on my treadmill 20 to 30 min. every other day.
I started working out more agressively in my first round on week three, I stalled a bit. I brought in weights, yoga (1 hour 15 minutes) Cardio, jump rope etc. THis time, I brought in less, 1/2 hour yoga, light weights, walking, and my losses were better. I am starting p3 by next weekend and will up my exercise again...
Coach...I too am a runner, but I was told by my Doctor NO physical exercise in P2. My doctor did say when I am done with my injections and on P3 I should go balls to the wall on my workouts. I find this theory to be confusing, but apparently proven by Dr. S's studies. Reading through all of these threads, I too don't know what to believe anymore.
andrew- i have no idea where these docs get this. there is nothing in the protocol to discourage exercise except to say that if you have a full day of intense exercise (like skiing) that you will TEMPORARILY retain some water. if anything, i think he encourages it. there are only 2 sections in the protocol where he refers to it- here they are:
We encourage swimming and sun bathing during treatment, but it should be remembered that a severe sunburn always produces a temporary rise in weight, evidently due to water retention. The same may be seen when a patient gets a common cold during treatment. Finally, the weight can TEMPORARILY increase - paradoxical though this may sound - after an exceptional physical exertion of long duration leading to a feeling of exhaustion. A game of tennis, a vigorous swim, a run, a ride on horseback or a round of golf do not have this effect; but a long trek, a day of skiing, rowing or cycling or dancing into the small hours usually result in a gain of weight on the following day, unless the patient is in perfect training. In patients coming from abroad, where they always use their cars, we often see this effect after a strenuous day of shopping on foot, sightseeing and visits to galleries and museums. Though the extra muscular effort involved does consume some additional calories, this appears to be offset by the retention of water which the tired circulation cannot at once eliminate. (margie here: note that the retention is temporary only)
Here is the other:
Towards the end of a full course, when a good deal of fat has been rapidly lost, some patients complain that lifting a weight or climbing stairs requires a greater muscular effort than before. They feel neither breathlessness nor exhaustion but simply that their muscles have to work harder. This phenomenon, which disappears soon after the end of the treatment, is caused by the removal of abnormal fat deposited between, in, and around the muscles. The removal of this fat makes the muscles too long, and so in order to achieve a certain skeletal movement - say the bending of an arm - the muscles have to perform greater contraction than before. Within a short while the muscle adjusts itself perfectly to the new situation, but under HCG the loss of fat is so rapid that this adjustment cannot keep up with it. Patients often have to be reassured that this does not mean that they are “getting weak”. This phenomenon does not occur in patients who regularly take vigorous exercise and continue to do so during treatment. (margie again- from this last line, it seems clear to me that he does not discourage exercise- if he had, I think he would have mentioned that here.)
Each person should listen to their own body about this issue. If you've been exercising, then its not likely an issue to continue. Albeit, the intensity will be likely be lower. If you have NOT been exercising, its probably a bit much to think you can handle all the changes from the diet AND starting an exercise program. But statements that you should not exercise for the month or two don't make sense when applied to an entire population of dieters when each of us are so different!
I am a work out junkie, I know that.... But for me, every time I did INTENSE exercise I saw a gain on the scale... Yesterday I did 1 1/2 hours of yoga on p3 and bowling, was starving all day AND gained this morning... I don't know.... I think I am going to wait on Intense exercise until P4... that's just me
So agree with you hampyoung. I am a ballroom dancer and have been off for 2 years. Losing the weight so I can go back to competitive dancing. I decided that it would be much easier to dance and train with 30 lbs. less of me. So I opted to not exercise for p2 mostly because the calories allowed would not support the level at which I train and I figured it would feel really good to go back so much lighter in 6 weeks. I start P3 in the morning and by mid week I will be back in the gym. I plan for my next round to be one where I exercise because I will have 6 weeks of P3 leading into it and my body wont be hit with so many things. By that time I will have proven to myself that I can do the whole p2, stabilize and exercise. So the only new variable will be in adding excercise to P2.
I have to say this is much more in moderation than I would have been a few years ago when I was competing heavily internationally and so much harder on myself. I think excercise has to be used to enhance and nurture ourselves not to beat our bodies into submission. And I am sure my comeback to the floor will reflect that in a lot more balance, confidence and freedom...